A defense contractor is selling technology that enables license plate reading cameras to also sense driver and passenger phones, laptops, and even pet microchips as you drive past. Police and others can buy it as of last week.
I was searching the deflock map yesterday and tried to use the timeline function, which is cool but I don't think works right. Has anyone used that function on the map? Am I just an idiot and doing it wrong?
More Georgia officers arrested for Flock camera misuse, officials say - AJC article
Several more law enforcement officers have been arrested and charged with misusing license plate reader systems this week, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation and local officials.
I try not to link to outside posts but this is important and relevant to this thread. Inside the stack is info for an act which we should all be supporting and calling our congressional reps about tomorrow. Every parent, at a minimum, should want this passed yesterday. F meta.
And, to underline just how determined this government is to seize and control your personal information, today's Guardian has a detailed analysis of how DOGE-descended operatives are rigging official government websites to collect private information, with no guardrails and no publicly stated privacy policy: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/28/government-website-visitor-tracking-surveillance-fears
I have been thinking about how people seem to be all up in arms over epstein, but act in ways that don't seem to be on board with the things that need to change in order to stop this.
I recently watched a 60 yr old "journalist" bash a 27 yr old over shit she did at 23, when already a single mom, and dating a baby daddy quite literally 2x her age, and richer than not just her, but everyone on earth.
18 f'ing cops have already been busted tracking their ex's with flock.[no this is not a slam on all LE] Example from 404: "For months during the summer of 2024, Jarmarus Brown, an Orange City, Florida police officer, ran his ex-girlfriend's license plate through the Flock automated license plate reader (ALPR) system lookup database at least 69 times. He searched for the license plate belonging to her mom at least 24 times, and searched for the license plate belonging to her dad at least 15 times. Brown’s searches were happening so often, and were so commonplace, that even one of his colleagues noticed Brown researching his ex-girlfriend's whereabouts while the law enforcement officers sat in their police cruisers, according to court records obtained by 404 Media."
I do not always get along with people on the 'me too' side. I have reason to know that the devil is in the details, and I am not always on the side of my own gender. I add that because my point is not that we need to get rid of this tech because I bias towards one side in gender. I don't. I have been told off more times than I can count by every variation of human.
We need to get rid of this tech in our communities because it effects all of us. It makes us less safe. Whether it is our govt, a foreign govt, a special interest, or someone out to find or harm us for personal reasons, eventually it will effect us or someone who matters to us. On our own we do not have the resources to fight back. This will take a village, or a state, or our country. This will only get worse if we don't personally act in our local communities.
Facial recognition was deployed here similarly. German and French companies had began expanding on the programming to carry out facial recognition. The companies were backed by right wing companies who set up foreign companies to build and sell undesirable surveillance technology. Facial recognition is a terribly dysfunctional law enforcement tool with a great deal of hype attached to it. It takes hours to set in motion and days to get semi-accurate results. Crowds make it nearly unfunctional. Intelligence uses AI versions that work faster and usually worse results. The bad arrests and detaining of the wrong people happens so often that countries like France are now kicking out these companies similar to the Palantir removal just recently.
I write about the Embedded Science that are the devices that control Machine Language which is the foundation for the front-end we all interact with called Artificial Intelligence. The radio frequency scrapping used in identifying radio signals is not new. Radio Frequency monitoring devices have around for years. Nobody trusted them then and we are all still aware there is good reason to not give them to law enforcement now. But . ..All cellular phones radio frequencies are monitored by all carriers, Google, Microsoft and Meta all monitor radio signals. It is why there are thousands of ineffectual lawsuits concerning information and data privacy breaches. This radio frequency (RF) scrapping for reading license plates is how those companies through Palantir are legalizing enforcement of surveillance of your digital equipment, anything smart (internet connected) to monitor people. One leads to the other. The US restricts this usage, but if it happens during something official like a police operation, in court it's not condoned but not denied either. It's a process of getting restricted here, shipping it overseas than creating a physical attribute like image capture through RF scrapping and legalizing it through law enforcement. Not condoned judicially but not denied. It is an undesirable technology.
Seems cities should say no to this as there are medical implants that it would pick up as well I think - got to be a 4th claim and health privacy. Also - no evidence it would not interfere with any medical as it uses radio frequencies - we should ask our town what they think the payout would look like if they cause a driver to skip a necessary heartbeat and kill themselves, passengers and anyone they hit.
Well that is one big ass company. 150 countries, almost 70k employees, hand in everything. Sells to everyone from canada to saudi. In case you want a job they love how good they are on dei and social responsibility lol. And they are hiring for 4 positions in the US. Yep only way I see to change the world is cut the military budget to 50 percent of 2020 numbers in 2029 and keep it there.
Does the ELSAG interrogate the electronics of a vehicle and look for a reply, or does it simply read whatever emissions cross its path? If it interrogates, couldn't there potentially be adverse effects from radiation when all the devices respond to the query? And if this is repeated multiple times throughout your journey, it seems that the potential adverse health effects would pose a significant health risk.
Also, I know that my veterinarian has to get within an inch or so of my pet to read its microchip, so how can ELSAG read the signal from a distance of tens of feet or more? Per a Reddit post on the topic, "...with very expensive equipment and a really slow moving dog, you can occasionally get a specialized scanner to read an implant up to two or three feet away. That’s a monumental task requiring dozens of Amps of excitation and reading the implant millions of times and correlating the results with digital signal processing." If ELSAG is hitting your vehicle with "dozens of Amps of excitation" and that occurs constantly, isn't that also a health risk?
The actual health risk is from being illegally arrested, detained in horrendous conditions, and deported to a "do not travel" country. Radiation is the least of our concerns with this technology.
I believe that California’s privacy laws do protect against device fingerprinting by expressly including device fingerprinting data within the statutory definition of personal information and unique identifiers subject to consumer rights and business obligations. The question is whether those laws apply to the subject company, given the thresholds that a company must meet for these laws to be applicable. I therefore think that demanding that our cities don’t purchase the technology is crucial.
The “nothing to hide” argument is taught to policing candidates. They think you are a joke when they use that argument on you. To them - the more I authorized info or insight into you that they have the better.
Is it not ironic that, of the “57 generated interactions” on my comment to a comment further down this article, only 28 of those interactions were “unique impressions per user”? I’m probably showing my own tech ignorance, but damned if that doesn’t feel a little bot-like.
Maybe it'd be possible to develop countermeasures to jam their system with so much irrelevant data that they can't unscramble it; e.g., phone swapping, or loading your car with extraneous electronic devices that aren't yours, etc. Or perhaps a creative engineer can develop a device on the scale of an MP3 player that continuously emits a cacophony of frequencies that simulate what comes from laptops, pet chips, smartwatches, fitness trackers but aren't linked to a specific person.
I was searching the deflock map yesterday and tried to use the timeline function, which is cool but I don't think works right. Has anyone used that function on the map? Am I just an idiot and doing it wrong?
More Georgia officers arrested for Flock camera misuse, officials say - AJC article
Several more law enforcement officers have been arrested and charged with misusing license plate reader systems this week, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation and local officials.
https://www.ajc.com/news/2026/07/more-georgia-officers-arrested-for-flock-camera-misuse-officials-say/
I try not to link to outside posts but this is important and relevant to this thread. Inside the stack is info for an act which we should all be supporting and calling our congressional reps about tomorrow. Every parent, at a minimum, should want this passed yesterday. F meta.
https://substack.com/@chrisarmitage1/note/p-205440540?r=6fi9js
And, to underline just how determined this government is to seize and control your personal information, today's Guardian has a detailed analysis of how DOGE-descended operatives are rigging official government websites to collect private information, with no guardrails and no publicly stated privacy policy: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/28/government-website-visitor-tracking-surveillance-fears
the General Welfare and Domestic Tranquility require personal security from plain surveillance. the government cannot neglect it in good faith.
I have been thinking about how people seem to be all up in arms over epstein, but act in ways that don't seem to be on board with the things that need to change in order to stop this.
I recently watched a 60 yr old "journalist" bash a 27 yr old over shit she did at 23, when already a single mom, and dating a baby daddy quite literally 2x her age, and richer than not just her, but everyone on earth.
18 f'ing cops have already been busted tracking their ex's with flock.[no this is not a slam on all LE] Example from 404: "For months during the summer of 2024, Jarmarus Brown, an Orange City, Florida police officer, ran his ex-girlfriend's license plate through the Flock automated license plate reader (ALPR) system lookup database at least 69 times. He searched for the license plate belonging to her mom at least 24 times, and searched for the license plate belonging to her dad at least 15 times. Brown’s searches were happening so often, and were so commonplace, that even one of his colleagues noticed Brown researching his ex-girlfriend's whereabouts while the law enforcement officers sat in their police cruisers, according to court records obtained by 404 Media."
I do not always get along with people on the 'me too' side. I have reason to know that the devil is in the details, and I am not always on the side of my own gender. I add that because my point is not that we need to get rid of this tech because I bias towards one side in gender. I don't. I have been told off more times than I can count by every variation of human.
We need to get rid of this tech in our communities because it effects all of us. It makes us less safe. Whether it is our govt, a foreign govt, a special interest, or someone out to find or harm us for personal reasons, eventually it will effect us or someone who matters to us. On our own we do not have the resources to fight back. This will take a village, or a state, or our country. This will only get worse if we don't personally act in our local communities.
Facial recognition was deployed here similarly. German and French companies had began expanding on the programming to carry out facial recognition. The companies were backed by right wing companies who set up foreign companies to build and sell undesirable surveillance technology. Facial recognition is a terribly dysfunctional law enforcement tool with a great deal of hype attached to it. It takes hours to set in motion and days to get semi-accurate results. Crowds make it nearly unfunctional. Intelligence uses AI versions that work faster and usually worse results. The bad arrests and detaining of the wrong people happens so often that countries like France are now kicking out these companies similar to the Palantir removal just recently.
I write about the Embedded Science that are the devices that control Machine Language which is the foundation for the front-end we all interact with called Artificial Intelligence. The radio frequency scrapping used in identifying radio signals is not new. Radio Frequency monitoring devices have around for years. Nobody trusted them then and we are all still aware there is good reason to not give them to law enforcement now. But . ..All cellular phones radio frequencies are monitored by all carriers, Google, Microsoft and Meta all monitor radio signals. It is why there are thousands of ineffectual lawsuits concerning information and data privacy breaches. This radio frequency (RF) scrapping for reading license plates is how those companies through Palantir are legalizing enforcement of surveillance of your digital equipment, anything smart (internet connected) to monitor people. One leads to the other. The US restricts this usage, but if it happens during something official like a police operation, in court it's not condoned but not denied either. It's a process of getting restricted here, shipping it overseas than creating a physical attribute like image capture through RF scrapping and legalizing it through law enforcement. Not condoned judicially but not denied. It is an undesirable technology.
Seems cities should say no to this as there are medical implants that it would pick up as well I think - got to be a 4th claim and health privacy. Also - no evidence it would not interfere with any medical as it uses radio frequencies - we should ask our town what they think the payout would look like if they cause a driver to skip a necessary heartbeat and kill themselves, passengers and anyone they hit.
Well that is one big ass company. 150 countries, almost 70k employees, hand in everything. Sells to everyone from canada to saudi. In case you want a job they love how good they are on dei and social responsibility lol. And they are hiring for 4 positions in the US. Yep only way I see to change the world is cut the military budget to 50 percent of 2020 numbers in 2029 and keep it there.
Does the ELSAG interrogate the electronics of a vehicle and look for a reply, or does it simply read whatever emissions cross its path? If it interrogates, couldn't there potentially be adverse effects from radiation when all the devices respond to the query? And if this is repeated multiple times throughout your journey, it seems that the potential adverse health effects would pose a significant health risk.
Also, I know that my veterinarian has to get within an inch or so of my pet to read its microchip, so how can ELSAG read the signal from a distance of tens of feet or more? Per a Reddit post on the topic, "...with very expensive equipment and a really slow moving dog, you can occasionally get a specialized scanner to read an implant up to two or three feet away. That’s a monumental task requiring dozens of Amps of excitation and reading the implant millions of times and correlating the results with digital signal processing." If ELSAG is hitting your vehicle with "dozens of Amps of excitation" and that occurs constantly, isn't that also a health risk?
The actual health risk is from being illegally arrested, detained in horrendous conditions, and deported to a "do not travel" country. Radiation is the least of our concerns with this technology.
Exactly. Those chips are rfid. It would be tough to read it that far away.
Good point.
Jeezus
I believe that California’s privacy laws do protect against device fingerprinting by expressly including device fingerprinting data within the statutory definition of personal information and unique identifiers subject to consumer rights and business obligations. The question is whether those laws apply to the subject company, given the thresholds that a company must meet for these laws to be applicable. I therefore think that demanding that our cities don’t purchase the technology is crucial.
The “nothing to hide” argument is taught to policing candidates. They think you are a joke when they use that argument on you. To them - the more I authorized info or insight into you that they have the better.
Is it not ironic that, of the “57 generated interactions” on my comment to a comment further down this article, only 28 of those interactions were “unique impressions per user”? I’m probably showing my own tech ignorance, but damned if that doesn’t feel a little bot-like.
Maybe it'd be possible to develop countermeasures to jam their system with so much irrelevant data that they can't unscramble it; e.g., phone swapping, or loading your car with extraneous electronic devices that aren't yours, etc. Or perhaps a creative engineer can develop a device on the scale of an MP3 player that continuously emits a cacophony of frequencies that simulate what comes from laptops, pet chips, smartwatches, fitness trackers but aren't linked to a specific person.
Or even a signal that is like a bit of malware that corrupts their systems and devices
Like this idea 👍
This is a not at all surprising development in technology and modern applications of it.