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Virginia Wiles's avatar

AND, we become better humans ourselves when we practice what you're preaching here.

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🌈🌈 The Educational Crisis's avatar

Truth breaks the Spell. And Education. People have to taught WHAT to see and HOW to See it.

It was built by a Science called Magian 2,000 years ago.

Magian is the "Dirty little secret" of The Government, The Vatican, The Church, Area 51... All of it.

Magian is the Science of Time and "Dimension" Manipulation. It is Highly Advanced Pscyhological Physics.

Of which, I am the Founder. And yes. I know how to break it. That's all I teach. The White House finally released Documents today about Magian.

I have the Full History if you want it.

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Sy's avatar

Probably not helpful in this situation.

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🌈🌈 The Educational Crisis's avatar

Prejudice is not helpful in any situation ever.

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SomeNYDude (he/him)'s avatar

Thank you, Alisa. This process will take a long time to break maga out, one by one. I see there are two kinds of maga. One that will go down with trump. There’s no use engaging with those. Some argue they should be isolated. The second group that have regrets, congnitive dissonance that breaks and broken free. We have the best chance with those folks.

Open ended questions seem to work best.

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Yvonne Salvatierra's avatar

Great read! I ask myself daily, what is it going to take to open their eyes? Your write up gives me new perspective and dare I say it? Hope.

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RCThweatt's avatar

That process is individual and slow..I fear too slow to meet the current need. The real hope probably lies in people in R districts losing jobs, businesses, healthcare, homes, as they are likely to do.

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Dianne's avatar

Your previous post about trauma and evangelicalism hit the nail on the head… I speak from lived experience which I have worked hard to get past.

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Neil Laslett's avatar

All true, all kind. But I'm very worried. If we are dependent on waiting for trump to hurt his own people, what about all the hurt he - and they - are causing others? What if he makes them feel *good* about hurting others? I will always lead with compassion, but some things must be stopped.

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Sy's avatar

We don’t have to wait. People can fight against what the current regime is doing while also approaching the people in their lives this way.

As the effects of the regime’s economic chaos hurt people in the cult, some of them might be more likely to feel doubts and seek alternative explanations.

Then we respond with what the author suggests here.

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Morpho's avatar

We stay calm and choose words carefully in any engagement. Say the truth. Stay calm. Walk on when they aren’t ready to engage civilly-

We can hope that their pupils will adjust to the light.

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Carl Allport's avatar

Great writing, thanks. The one thing that will break the cult apart is the release of the Epstein files.

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Ken Fisher's avatar

Compassionate resolve. Ever grateful.

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Jstn Green's avatar

"You can't fix cultists with logic and reason. They are emotion-driven. They don't need facts, they need therapy" - Jstn Green

I swear it's almost like we share a brain on this stuff, Alisa.

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Douglas Carlton's avatar

Only two ways out of a cult, drink cool aid or light yourself on fire.

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Yelling at Clouds's avatar

Bombs seemed to work in Germany. And a whole bunch of committed and brave people who were willing to smash the fascists.

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Emma Moore's avatar

This is it

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Michelle Peairs's avatar

Great information. This is such a difficult time and I can’t believe we are in this timeline

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John Moore's avatar

Brilliantly perceptive post. It feels as if the country is in an abusive relationship. I suspect that the MAGA hard core will only be made aware of this if they see more people they admire (billionaires, ex military, church leaders, TV personalities, charismatic farmers or shopkeepers, NOT politicians) spelling it out. Plus some sort of vision of the future that still makes them feel they're being listened to and their interests put first.

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Danver Chandler's avatar

I just read a chapter written by Daphne Fatter, Ph.D. She describes the ingrained toxic loyalty that's in the blood and bones...She goes on to describe what will be needed for this to truly be overcome. There's so much history of war from Europe to America (and beyond) where loyalty has meant survival she says — it is so deeply habituated.

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Morpho's avatar

Yes. This is so concerning.

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